Israel Attacks Iran
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I don't know what? I never said one one or the other, I was pointing out the huge amount of effort Iran is putting into dissemination of propaganda, a ton of which is ai generated , to portray the absolute smack down they just got as a victory.
A couple of undisputed facts
1. Iran can not defend their airspace
2.Iran can not protect valuable military assets from attack
3. Iran just lost a ton of valuable military personnel
Now some questionable facts that may be up for dispute
1. Iran can only damage civilian, soft targets with its missiles
2. Iran cannot maintain its rate of fire due to lack of munitions and immediate launcher attrition after 1st fire due to total air surveillance by isreal and their quick air response
3 Iran will not seriously try to attack American assets whilst Trump is in power because he will curb stomp them to make a point
Now imho this can end a few ways
From Iran's perspective
1. Develop/acquire and prove you have several nuclear weapons that you can leverage to negotiate for usa to not get involved. A difficult task given everything involved
2. Somehow, maybe with the help of point 1, eradicate Israel and every single Jew before they are able to retaliate with a nuclear weapon.
3. Negotiate a peace deal without intention of keeping it and go through this process again in the near future.
4. Finally accept Israel's right to exist and open up trade, foreign relations and hopefully in mot to distant future, get sanctions removed.
Isreals options
1. Eradicate all Iran leadership through targeted missile, air and covert strikes until a more Israeli friendly government comes to power
2. Accept a ceasefire peace deal that means Iran continues sabre rattling and developing the means to destroy all Jews in Middle East whilst covertly supporting terrorism against Israel.
3. Accept Iran's right to exist in response to their acknowledgement of Isreal, open up trade and live in harmony.
Let's be 100% real here, it's going to be 3 and 2 and there is nothing we can do until one of the other options come to fruition and I really hope it's the last one because any other way will see Middle East changed from oil fields to glass mine
Israel hid information about Iran hitting five of its military facilities, including a major air base, during the 12-day war, the British newspaper The Daily Telegraph writes, citing an analysis of satellite data conducted at Oregon State University.As the images showed, six Iranian missiles hit five sites in the north, south and central parts of Israel, including an intelligence center and a logistics base. In total, Iran struck more than 40 Israeli infrastructure facilities during the short war. According to The Daily Telegraph, Israeli and US air defenses intercepted about 84% of the missiles.
The IDF did not comment on the data on hits on military bases, but said that "all units maintained functional continuity throughout the operation."
I have also read hints that China does have a new advanced radar. I have no actual info on the existence or capability of the radar. Will put a very interesting shade on future Air Fighting if the radar is capable of what has been hinted at.
HQ-19: CHINA'S THAAD KILLERThe Iran-Israel conflict has reignited doubts over THAAD's effectiveness. Despite the US-made ABM system's extensive deployment during the 12-day war, Israel failed to stop scores of Iranian missiles from finding their high-value targets.
What’s Wrong with THAAD?
Terminal-phase only interception (no backup if it misses)Limited range (~200 km)Slow interceptor speed (2.8 km/s) — not fast enough to stop Iran’s Fattah or the Houthis’ Palestine-2 hypersonic missiles
Enter the HQ-19 – China’s superior alternativeThe Hong Qi-19 (lit. 'Red Banner-19') solves these issues with:
Range up to 3,000 km thanks to dual-stage engineSpeed: 10 km/sHigher max altitude: 200 km vs THAAD’s 150 kmBetter radar: 4,000 km detection (Type 610A) vs THAAD's 3,000 km (AN/TPY-2)Kinetic kill vehicle built for extreme maneuvering (up to 60G load)Superior versatility: Can intercept ballistic missiles, hypersonics, and even low-orbit satellites🛠 What’s the US response?
Lockheed Martin is working on THAAD-ER – promising better range, speed, altitude, radar, and agility. But it won’t be ready before the 2030s — and judging by delays in other US missile-related programs, perhaps even later.
Until then, China’s HQ-19 looks like the most capable high-end ABM system in the game.
Boost us | Chat | @geopolitics_primeThnx for the post. Very interesting. It's been extremely difficult to get any factual info on what damage Iran did to Israel.
As the images showed, six Iranian missiles hit five sites in the north, south and central parts of Israel, including an intelligence center and a logistics base. In total, Iran struck more than 40 Israeli infrastructure facilities during the short war. According to The Daily Telegraph, Israeli and US air defenses intercepted about 84% of the missiles.
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