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Hourly Rate 😮

My take on this is i hate paying so much for a service that more often than not is subpar and is difficult to distinguish between quality trades and garbage.
However, for years trades have been looked down by the cult of "go to university for your arts degree " and now basic economic supply and demand comes into play.
So if you want a service that has greater supply than demand you have to compete on price. This will come back to fair pricing soon enough as enough people enter the workforce and skill up due to the lure of $$$
Meanwhile ford ranger sales with continue to top the charts and jetski dealers make bank
 
Oh I'm happy to discuss the issue of nickel mining in Indonesia, just thought it was off topic here.
It actually makes my previous point, western companies cannot exploit these resources as the environmental cost is to high and any company that tried to would be attacked financially in its origin country.
China on the other hand has no compunction with wrecking havoc on the environment and local population with the assistance of a compliant government.
We have far great environmental protections and human rights in Australia so cannot compete at there cost.
10 to 20 years from now there will be documentaries about how this destroyed Indonesia's environment and why.
 
Sorry, I did lay that out poorly & reading it back I can easily see confusion.

Trades ! - was an exclamation about just lumping " Tradespeople " in with Pedos. Pedos in every area of life.

Reference to the " Holiest " is because AUS has been rocked time & again by stories of Pedo Priests. The clergy have had an outsized role in Pedophilia.

Tradespeople charging, what the public perceive as excessive pricing, is just due to the fact that 90% + of the general Public have no Idea of the pricing structure involve in Trades/Business.

Eg, I had a licensed pest controller com here yesterday. So a trained Technician/Tradie. Fucking rats in the roof. Anyway, 35 min & 10 min for report/billing. Plus travel - say an hour. Cost was $235 AUD. I'm fine as I understand trade pricing & Biz structure. But to someone on $25/hr - $235 might, to them, seem excessive. To them the guy walks in 35 min walks out for $235. They only make $200 for a full 8hr day. Their thought - fucking ripoff trades/biz people.

I hope that clarifies a bit.

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Sounds like you're putting all trades and tradies in the same tainted basket.
Maybe you should have said "some tradies" are predators.
Just like "some" lawyers, real estate agents, mechanics, surveyors, chiropractors, physiotherapists the list goes on and on, there's predators in every sector in this toxic society.
Yes , i meant 99.9 percent. I have heard urban legends that there are decent tradies who arent obsessed with getting filthy rich and lying through their teeth, im yet to meet any.
 
If you were female in nsw you would have paid 3k.
Mmm, being "female" is a fucking piss poor excuse.

Females have NO trouble learning everything there is to know about Fashion, Cosmetics, Gossip ( who's fucking who ), etc.

If they put the same effort into learning a few other " relatively " ( at least in my view ) important areas maybe they wouldn't pay " $3k "

Somewhat related. A guy will pay $25 for a standard haircut. They will baulk at paying more. Women will pay $125 for standard hair cuts. Why ? because the 99.99% of female hairdresser know that's what women will pay 😂 If women just baulked at that price, hairdressers would have to charge less. Ahh, women !
 
Mmm, being "female" is a fucking piss poor excuse.

Females have NO trouble learning everything there is to know about Fashion, Cosmetics, Gossip ( who's fucking who ), etc.

If they put the same effort into learning a few other " relatively " ( at least in my view ) important areas maybe they wouldn't pay " $3k "

Somewhat related. A guy will pay $25 for a standard haircut. They will baulk at paying more. Women will pay $125 for standard hair cuts. Why ? because the 99.99% of female hairdresser know that's what women will pay 😂 If women just baulked at that price, hairdressers would have to charge less. Ahh, women !
A hairdresser told me they charge women more because women are much more fussier about their hair than most men.
 
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